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Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« on: Sunday, 31 Jan 2010, 02:12:18 »
Hey there folks!

To start this forum off, lets start with some tactics/tricks you found for wintergrasp!





Tactics:

Kaasuid:
Very simple, yet very accurate --> Workshops.
Focus all your attention on the workshops, make sure you always control the 4 outter ones, sunken ring - broken temple - westspark and eastspark.
With control over these vehicles you will ensure that the enemy cant make any. Making sure that the enemy is without vehicles will give you the win. There will always be random people that take care of the other tasks, ie killing the walls.

Defense: Make sure you are at sunken ring in advance, so you start with capping it early and are able to farm some kills for rank (everyone wants rank dont they? :)) after that, either when you get zerged, or when no one shows up anymore --> move to eastspark, westspark, broken temple and rinse and repeat.

Offense: Make sure you get rank quickly, at front gate or at one of the workshops (if the alliance is offensive). After getting rank it is a question of keeping the south two workshops at all costs. The north two will be taken by horde players anyway seeing all they care about is zerging with catapults ( -_- )
Controlling the south 2 workshops makes sure your towers stay alive and that you control 16 supply.



Tricks

Kaasuid: A rather lame trick here is to get into wintergrasp fast, before it starts, fly to the fortress and stand on top of a tower. As soon as it starts, you jump down on the newly constructed door and you are in a place that no one can reach yet you can reach everyone (watch out for hunters though :D)

Mukk: Another lame but sometimes quite handy tactic is to utilise a demolisher or two to pound some damage into the keep door by firing over the walls to the inner courtyard, the enemy is often quite slow at catching on to this.

Tips

Kaasuid: Tenacity is a bitch, make sure you run away in a timely fashion when youre not getting things done. Luring them away from the workshop can be just as valuable as actually getting the workshop. Try to operate in groups, to prevent zerging.

Ruz: As for defending i only got one thing to say..

PICK UP THE DAMN RP-GGs xD

they do insane dmg to sieges and if all just spammed those they would never get in but people underrate them soo much, sure it's a bit tricky to figure out how to aim but just testfire once to see approx. range then try to keep taht and keep facing the siege

once you nail it... oh my the dmg is <3<3

Mechanics

Kaasuid: Just for clarification, there are 3 kinds of vehicles; you should avoid all of them except for siege vehicles ^_^
« Last Edit: Sunday, 31 Jan 2010, 06:20:59 by Kaasrasp »
PvP = Player versus Player, not Vehicle versus Wall.

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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #1 on: Sunday, 31 Jan 2010, 05:10:27 »
Another lame but sometimes quite handy tactic is to utilise a demolisher or two to pound some damage into the keep door by firing over the walls to the inner courtyard, the enemy is often quite slow at catching on to this.

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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #2 on: Sunday, 31 Jan 2010, 05:17:02 »
As for defending i only got one thing to say..

PICK UP THE DAMN RP-GGs xD

they do insane dmg to sieges and if all just spammed those they would never get in but people underrate them soo much, sure it's a bit tricky to figure out how to aim but just testfire once to see approx. range then try to keep taht and keep facing the siege

once you nail it... oh my the dmg is <3<3


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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, 03 Feb 2010, 05:00:34 »
What Ruz said.

They can be tricky to aim but they do wonders. If say you're defending the final siege on the main-door. Normally if you stand on the steps leading up to the turrets on the East and West sides and aim inwards you get a decent shot at sieges coming through the middle.

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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, 03 Feb 2010, 10:15:32 »
No new WG trinkets
PvP = Player versus Player, not Vehicle versus Wall.

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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, 16 Feb 2010, 15:44:23 »
Perhaps add that if you're not max rank yet or if the amount of vehicles is limited, ENTER THE BLOODY SIEGE VEHICLE TURRETS. because the guns have a reasonable range you can attack structures right from the moment you get in defensive guns range, instead of once you're hugging the wall (as a driver) this makes them a very strong asset that should not be wasted.

ps. plus you can rape attackers that manually try to wreck the siege vehicle prematurely :P

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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, 16 Feb 2010, 16:55:44 »
they changed that :P

you need maxrank to both drive and tag along in them


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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #7 on: Saturday, 06 Mar 2010, 01:23:13 »
I'd like to add, as for priests when ranking up or defending vehicles. Mind control can be one of the most powerfull tools in Wintergrasp.
For example Mind Controlling players who stand in/on the Fortress to jump outside the Fortress so Melee can hit them aswell and the alliance wont just get out of line of sight and recover. Or if there's Demolishers around and you're attacking, Mind control targets and go out of los of the vehicle if you can or just make the distance between the vehicle and the player. Actually won some Wintergrasp by doing so. Vehicle had 2k health left at that time. ^^
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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #8 on: Saturday, 06 Mar 2010, 03:11:30 »
About the avoiding vehicles stuff, sometimes siege is just too slow (extreme example: last tower to go and the enemy is at the last gates) and/or team too retarded (alliance heroes ho) to tag along, in which case a demo works wonders. Unless something has been buffed/nerfed in 3.3, since I haven't done wg more than once or twice since the patch hit, they're much quicker than sieges and get stuff down faster than riding solo in a siege.

Plus, range can dps/heal when riding a demo, unlike in a siege (again, unless it has been changed. At least you could when I was a ranged).

'Course, this is from the tower destroying perspective, anything but a siege is too squishy to hit the base with.


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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #9 on: Thursday, 03 Jun 2010, 12:22:54 »
Ganking in Wintergrasp.

From my experience so far, the smartest thing to do is stand near their vendor if the alliance owns Wintergrasp, stand on top of the tower next to the vendor simply nuke a few people (more effective right after the battle for Wintergrasp ends, also requires you to play a ranged class). Make the Alliance players come for you and kill as many as possible. When it gets too much make a small Strafe Jump to jump on top of the side of the tower (dont jump on the walls), and immediately run to the small bit so they cant hit you.

Its quite amazing how you can get a reset this easy, barely anyone immediately jumps the right way and most players will have to get out of combat and mount up first. In the meantime you should be able to get full health again and maybe some mana also. If your opponents are complete morrons you might be able to mount again as well and get back up top to repeat. 1v10 inc ;)
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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #10 on: Thursday, 03 Jun 2010, 12:51:04 »
That's some serious PvP trolling over there. Tried it a few nights ago and worked like a charm :D Also, I found that I can get in range for Living Bomb/Blizzard if I position in the right spot on the wall near their vendor. Blew the hell out of them :P Anyway, thanks for the tips. Keep them coming!
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Re: Wintergrasp Tips and Tricks
« Reply #11 on: Thursday, 03 Jun 2010, 13:08:17 »
Also, you can fire RP-GG THROUGH walls and still damage attacking sieges/demos that wallhug.
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